"I don't think it was always like that. Our country has a lot of space for cattle, so yeah, beef is pretty big here. Goats not so much as a long time ago, or in some of the poorer countries around the world."

He shrugged. "You read about what people used to eat, you realize we're pretty spoiled now. Anything you want, any time of year. If it's not in season here, we trade with a region where it is in season. Any fruit, any vegetable, whenever you want."